Agenda and minutes

Public Safety and Protection Sub-Committee A
Tuesday, 2nd July, 2019 9.30 am

Venue: 1P01, City Hall, College Green, Bristol

Contact: Corrina Haskins 

Items
No. Item

13.

Welcome and Safety Information

Minutes:

The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting and drew attention to the safety information.

14.

Apologies for Absence

Minutes:

Apologies were received from Councillor Jones, substitute was Cllr Eddy.

15.

Declarations of Interest

Minutes:

There were none.

16.

Public Forum

Up to 30 minutes is allowed for this item.

 

Any member of the public or Councillor may participate in Public Forum.  The detailed arrangements for so doing are set out in the Public Information Sheet at the back of this agenda.  Public Forum items should be emailed to democratic.services@bristol.gov.uk and please note that the following deadlines will apply in relation to this meeting:-

 

Questions - Written questions must be received 3 clear working days prior to the meeting.  For this meeting, this means that your question(s) must be received in this office at the latest by 5 pm on 26 June 2019.

 

Petitions and Statements - Petitions and statements must be received on the working day prior to the meeting.  For this meeting this means that your submission must be received in this office at the latest by 12.00 noon on 1 July 2019.

 

Please note, your time allocated to speak may have to be strictly limited if there are a lot of submissions. This may be as short as one minute.

Minutes:

Nothing was received.

17.

Minutes of Public Safety and Protection Sub-Committee A - 11 June 2019 pdf icon PDF 209 KB

To confirm as a correct record.

Minutes:

RESOLVED – that these be agreed as correct record of the Meeting and signed by the Chair.

18.

Suspension of Committee Procedure Rules CMR10 and CMR11 Relating to the Moving of Motions and Rules of Debate

Recommended – that having regard to the quasi-judicial nature of the business on the Agenda, those Committee Procedure Rules relating to the moving of

motions and the rules of debate (CMR10 and 11) be suspended for the duration

of the meeting.

 

Minutes:

RESOLVED – that having regard to the quasi-judicial nature of the business on the Agenda, those Committee Procedure Rules relating to the moving of motions and the rules of debate (CMR10 and 11) be suspended for the duration of the meeting.

 

19.

Exclusion of Press and Public

Recommended – that under Section 11A(4) of the Local Government Act 1972

the public be excluded from the meeting for the following items of business on the ground that involve the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined in Part 1of Schedule 12A to the Act, as amended.

 

Minutes:

RESOLVED - that under Section 11A (4) of the Local Government Act 1972 the public be excluded from the meeting for the following items of business on the ground that involve the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined in Part 1 of Schedule 12A to the Act, as amended.

 

20.

Report to consider whether to take action in relation to Street Trading Consents at Prince Street M-Shed (RL)/Land To South West Corner Of Playground Greville Smyth Park (SL)

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The Licensing Officer advised the Members of the Committee that she had been informed by their legal representative that neither of the Consent Holders would be in attendance. They had confirmed via their solicitor that they were content for the meeting to go ahead in their absence. She further advised that the legal representative had stated that should the Consents be revoked the relevant employees would lose their jobs.

 

The Licensing Officer then introduced the report relating to Greville Smyth Park (SL) and summarised it for everyone highlighting that documents submitted including the application form and insurance form are in the name of SL and the trading name of the business, which is not a registered company. This indicates that the business and SL are clearly linked, in spite of him being made the subject of a Slavery and Trafficking Risk Order (STRO) by Avon and Somerset Magistrates Court. This order in general prevents SL from being involved with any recruitment, management, payment, and accommodation of staff.

 

The Licensing Officer then introduced the report relating to Prince Street M Shed (RL) and summarised it for everyone highlighting that documents submitted including the application form and insurance form are in the name of SL and the trading name of the business, which is not a registered company. This indicates that the business and SL are clearly linked, in spite of him being made the subject of a Slavery and Trafficking Risk Order (STRO) by Avon and Somerset Magistrates Court.

 

The Members noted that although RL had been acquitted, the CPS had considered that there was enough evidence to potentially secure a conviction.

 

Decision

Members considered very carefully all of the written and verbal evidence presented to them.

 

They noted that SL’s name appears on all of the documents relating to the business indicating that he continues to play an active part in it even though he has been made the subject of a Slavery and Trafficking Risk Order (STRO) by Avon and Somerset Magistrates Court preventing him from being involved with any recruitment, management, payment, and accommodation of staff. No evidence was presented to indicate that he is no longer active in the business.

The Committee therefore decided to revoke the Greville Smyth Park Consent held SL. The Committee also decided to revoke the Prince Street M Shed Consent held by RL.

Resolved – that the Street Trading Consent(s) at Land to South West Corner of Playground Greville Smyth Park held by SL be revoked. The Committee noted that on 8 May 2019 SL was made the subject of a Slavery and Trafficking Risk Order (STRO) by Avon and Somerset Magistrates Court. The STRO was applied for by Avon and Somerset Constabulary, and was further to a court case in which he had deemed unfit to stand trial because he had been diagnosed with dementia.

 

Under the Council’s Street Trading Policy, the Council is entitled to take into account the suitability of the applicant as well as having a wide discretion  ...  view the full minutes text for item 20.

21.

To seek consideration of the ability of a licensed Hackney Carriage Driver to be considered a fit and proper person to hold a licence following on from an investigation by the Neighbourhood Enforcement Team SS

Additional documents:

Minutes:

 

SS was in attendance, accompanied his solicitor and an observer.

 

The complainants/witnesses KF and GT were in attendance.

 

The Neighbourhood Enforcement Officer introduced the report and summarised it for everyone. In response to questions, she clarified that in response to a previous complaint about SS no further action was taken and that in relation to this case there was no transcript of the interview given by SS available.

 

GT confirmed his written statement. In response to questions from Members he confirmed that he and his friends were not aggressive or argumentative. There had been an argument about the fare and the use of the meter. His friend W had been talking to SS with his head partially in the window when SS had driven off with his head in that position. He could not recall what words SS used but he had been shouting and aggressive.

 

GT then answered questions from SS’s solicitor highlighting the following:

• Although the incident had taken place in February and he had not made a statement until March, he had kept notes of the incident on his phone (The Neighbourhood Enforcement Officer confirmed that she had formatted the statement on the form but that all of the wording in the statement belonged to GT.)

• He is still in contact with his friends

• Prior to the incident they had tried to call an UBER but none were available

• When they asked SS for a price for the 3 stops he quoted £30 - £10 each

• When they challenged him about the price he dropped it to £25

• When they asked for his Badge Number he refused to provide it

• His voice was raised and he was aggressive

• GT had drunk 3 pints of beer throughout the evening

 

KF confirmed her written statement. She also confirmed that she had not drank alcohol and had heard the conversation GT had with SS who was aggressive.

KF then answered questions from SS’s solicitor highlighting the following:

• Her statement was made on 13th June 2019

• She had spoken to her friends about what had happened

• GT had spoken to the driver but he was not drunk

• She understood what the driver was saying

• GT had asked him to use the meter and he had refused

• She heard SS tell GT to Shut Up

• There had been no argument with SS

 

SS then put his version of events highlighting the following:

• He had been stopped and was asked for a price

• He stated that it would be between £15 and £25 for the 3 stops but that it would be on the meter

• The passenger he was in conversation with had become aggressive and abusive; he had feared for his safety

• He decided to drive off; the passenger he was speaking to did not have his head in the window

 

The Neighbourhood Enforcement Officer clarified that they had initially taken a  ...  view the full minutes text for item 21.

22.

Report of an Application for the Renewal of a Private Hire Driver Licence and Existing Private Hire Vehicle Licence GA

Minutes:

GA was in attendance, accompanied by his solicitor.

 

The solicitor requested an adjournment of the hearing on the basis that he was not aware that the complainant had agreed to speak to the Committee and he had therefore not prepared for this event. It was pointed out that paragraph 10 of the report had made this clear and that GA had been provided with a copy of the report. The solicitor stated that he had not had sight of the report and that given the seriousness of the allegations, the request for an adjournment was reasonable. Further enquiries needed to be made of the Police. He also needed to know what the complainant was going to say as he had no idea what case was to be put against his client.

 

Following consultation with Officers the Committee agreed that consideration of this item should be deferred until the Meeting on 13th August 2019.

 

The solicitor then requested that, since the Licence held by GA had expired on 16th June 2019, the Council issue him with a temporary Licence pending the outcome of this case.

The Committee were reminded that it would have to be satisfied that GA is a fit and proper person to approve the issue of even a temporary Licence.

 

The Members agreed that they were not in a position to decide on this. The Committee therefore decided that consideration of the licence should wait until the adjourned hearing.

 

Resolved – that consideration of this case be deferred until the Meeting on 13th August 2019.

23.

Request for the Grant of a Hackney Carriage Licence Seeking Departure from Bristol City Council Policy AM

Minutes:

AM was in attendance.

 

The Licensing Officer introduced the report and summarised it for everyone.

AM put his case highlighting the following:

• He had not been working in March 2018 when his previous vehicle was due for renewal

• He wants to get a Euro 6 vehicle

• A ULEV vehicle would be a large investment and he now works fewer hours

 

The Licensing Officer and Applicant withdrew from the meeting while the Committee considered the application.

 

Decision

The Members considered very carefully all of the written and verbal evidence presented to them.

 

They considered that, taking account of his circumstances, it would be appropriate in this case to make an exception to their Policy and allow AM to acquire and licence an appropriate Euro 6 vehicle. The vehicle should be petrol driven and he should be allowed a maximum of 6 months to acquire the vehicle. Officers will have delegated authority to agree the exact model.

 

Everyone returned to the meeting to hear the decision.

 

Resolved – that AM be permitted to acquire a suitable Euro 6 petrol driven vehicle within 6 months and that Officers be given delegated authority to agree the exact model and issue a Licence for the vehicle.