Agenda and minutes

Public Safety and Protection Sub-Committee B - Tuesday, 21st July, 2020 10.00 am

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Items
No. Item

22.

Welcome and Safety Information pdf icon PDF 98 KB

Minutes:

The Chair explained the legal framework to the Meeting and how it would proceed.

23.

Apologies for Absence

Minutes:

Apologies were received from Cllr Carole Johnson and Cllr Chris Davies.

24.

Declarations of Interest

Minutes:

None received.

25.

Minutes of the Previous Meeting pdf icon PDF 203 KB

Report to follow.

Minutes:

The minutes of the meeting of 23 June 2020 were agreed as a correct record.

26.

Public Forum

Up to 10 minutes is allowed for this item.

 

Any member of the public or Councillor may participate in Public Forum.  The detailed arrangements for so doing are set out in the Public Information Sheet at the back of this agenda.  Public Forum items should be emailed to democratic.services@bristol.gov.uk and please note that the following deadlines will apply in relation to this meeting:-

 

Questions - Written questions must be received 3 clear working days prior to the meeting.  For this meeting, this means that your question(s) must be received in this office at the latest by 5 pm on Wednesday 15 July 2020.

 

Petitions and Statements - Petitions and statements must be received on the working day prior to the meeting.  For this meeting this means that your submission must be received in this office at the latest by 12.00 noon on Monday 20 July 2020.

 

Please note, your time allocated to speak may have to be strictly limited if there are a lot of submissions. This may be as short as one minute

 

Minutes:

None received.

27.

Suspension of Committee Procedure Rules CMR10 and CMR11 Relating to the Moving of Motions and Rules of Debate

Recommended – that having regard to the quasi-judicial nature of the business

on the Agenda, those Committee Procedure Rules relating to the moving of

motions and the rules of debate (CMR10 and 11) be suspended for the duration

of the meeting.

 

Minutes:

RESOLVED – that having regard to the quasi-judicial nature of the business on the Agenda, those Committee Procedure Rules relating to the moving of motions and the rules of debate (CMR10 and 11) be suspended for the duration of the meeting.

28.

Exclusion of the Press and Public

Recommended – that under Section 11A(4) of the Local Government Act 1972

the public be excluded from the meeting for the following items of business on the ground that involve the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined in Part 1of Schedule 12A to the Act, as amended.

Minutes:

RESOLVED - that under Section 11A (4) of the Local Government Act 1972 the public be excluded from the meeting for the following items of business on the ground that involve the likely disclosure of exempt information as defined in Part 1 of Schedule 12A to the Act, as amended.

29.

PSP Report JB

Minutes:

The applicant was in attendance.

 

The Licensing Officer introduced the report and drew attention to the following:

·       The application for a Private Hire Driver’s Licence was made on 9 April 2020. The applicant has held a licence since 2014.

·       Upon processing the application a DVLA check was carried out which identified an SP30 offence resulting in a 6 points licence penalty. The applicant did not declare this offence on his application as required by the policy.

·       The Council’s general policy on criminal behaviour states that this offence is a hybrid offence which will be treated as a major traffic offence if 4 or more penalty points were imposed for the offence. 6 points were imposed therefore the offence is treated as a major traffic offence.

·       However, where the conviction is within 6 months prior to the date of the application the application will normally be refused

·       An application will  normally be refused if there is a major traffic  offence within 6 months prior to application.

 

The applicant gave the following evidence:

·       The date of the offence was 3 December 2019. The company he worked for received a letter asking who the driver was. He then received a letter in late January/early February where he accepted responsibility for the offence and returned a form. . He then went on holiday 10 – 24 February 2020 and moved house on 1 March 2020. Mid to end of March 2020 he received a letter regarding the offence requesting his financial details, which he states he provided.

·       He applied for the licence on 9 April 2020 as the licence would be expiring in May. At the time of the application, he had not received an outcome for the speeding offence and he did not have an outcome / conviction at the point of application. He had not received a fine or points at that time and therefore he ticked the declaration box as at that time he state there was nothing to declare.

·       There was an article in the press about this conviction, which was the first that he had heard about the points. This was around 5 May. He then got a letter 6 May, then paid fine on the 7 May.

·       The offence was driving 40 mph in a 20mph limit, which was why the penalty points were doubled. He states he was not on a job or hurrying to one, but was just careless.

 

After questioning from the committee, the following information was confirmed:

·       . The applicant’s driving record does not reveal any other offences

·       There has been a delay in bringing this case to committee due to a backlog caused by the coronavirus pandemic

·       The press article referred to was found and was dated 4 May on the Somerset Live website. The address in the article is his current address.

·       The applicant moved house before making his application but did not inform the authority of this change of address, which is a breach of conditions.

·       The applicant has not been  ...  view the full minutes text for item 29.

30.

PSP Report MH

Minutes:

The applicant’s representative (IM) was in attendance.

 

The Licensing Officer introduced the report and drew attention to the following:

·       This is an application for renewal of a Private Hire Vehicle Licence. The vehicle was first registered in June 2010 and the application was made in May 2020.

·       The policy is not to licence a vehicle that is over 10 years old. 

·       New vehicles registered must be petrol, electric or hybrid. The application vehicle is diesel. Exemptions for diesel vehicles can be considered as long as the vehicle is being used for executive travel. 

·       The vehicle has not undertaken the necessary mechanical checks.

 

The applicant’s representative gave the following evidence:

·       The applicant seeks to extend the vehicle licence temporarily until his MOT expires in December 2020

·       Due to Covid-19 restrictions, the applicant has not been able to work as a taxi driver and had to resort to claiming benefits, putting his family in financial hardship.

·       He has been a taxi driver since 2005 and has no convictions.

·       The vehicle has a valid MOT certificate until December 2020 and is taxed until February 2021. The MOT was done by BCC fleet services so should expect to pass any further testing.

·       He has been working as a taxi driver while studying law and will be taking up a pupillage in January 2021. He would like to continue taxi work until then.

·       In Northern Ireland there has been automatic renewal of licences during Covid-19.

 

After questioning from the committee, the following information was confirmed:

·       There have previously been very few vehicles over 10 years old that have been granted exemption. Considering poor air quality in Bristol, there would need to be exceptional circumstances to grant exemption.

·       That the committee can grant a licence of any duration up to 12 months.

·       The applicant was unlikely to use the vehicle for executive travel.

·       BCC policies are made based on national legislation.

·       Personal circumstances carry no weight in proceedings, as it is a question of valid policy and public safety.

 

The Committee withdrew to deliberate on their decision.                    

 

RESOLVED (unanimous decision)

The Committee considered and applied the Council’s Vehicle Specification Policy and determined to refuse the application. The Committee is not satisfied that the vehicle is suitable; it took into account it’s age, type and specification, especially as the vehicle  over 10 years old and is a diesel engine.   The Committee does not consider that there are exceptional circumstances to depart from the policy. The Committee was not required to take into account the personal circumstances of the applicant since the primary concern is protection of the public.

 

31.

PSP Report NK

Minutes:

The applicant’s representative (HK) was in attendance.

 

The Licensing Officer introduced the report and drew attention to the following:

·       The application is for a Private Hire Vehicle Licence, seeking exemption from the policy requiring all newly licenced vehicles to be a maximum of 3 ½ years old. 

·       The vehicle was registered on 15 November 2016 and is 3 years 8 months old.

·       The policy states that the authority should not grant a licence if they are not satisfied that the vehicle is suitable.

 

The applicant’s representative gave the following evidence:

·       The applicant believed that she needed an MOT certificate prior to the licence application. The vehicle had to have tinted windows removed. Covid-19 restrictions meant a delay in getting this fixed. The MOT was completed on 6 April 2020.

·       The car was bought within the 3 ½ year limit, but this period expired due to the belief that the MOT certificate was required prior to the application and delays. When the car was purchased it would have qualified as it was less than 3 ½ years old from first registration

 

After questioning from the committee, the following information was confirmed:

·       A new licence is granted for a period of 12 months.

·       The vehicle is 2 months older than the 3 ½ year limit.

 

The Committee withdrew to deliberate on their decision.                     

 

RESOLVED (unanimous decision)

The Committee are satisfied that the applicant made improvements to the vehicle prior to the licence application being submitted in order to comply with vehicle requirements, although the application was made two months later than the policy states, due to the applicant’s incorrect belief of the timing of the application. The Committee considered the overall age and type of the vehicle and determined to grant the application.

 

32.

PSP Report IO

Minutes:

It was noted that this item had been withdrawn from the Agenda.